Collapse of Complex Societies by Dr. Joseph Tainter
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中文导读
人类学家 Joseph Tainter 在可持续发展大会上的经典演说：以古罗马等复杂文明为例，阐述社会复杂性上升带来的收益递减律，直至整个系统不堪重负而走向崩溃。
为什么 HN 推它
系统科学与社会学交叉的必看之作；每当 HN 探讨技术创新放缓、组织官僚化和中心化脆弱性时，常以此论述作为理论基石。
「一定要花时间看看 Tainter 关于系统复杂性与崩溃的这场演讲。」HN 网友原话：Spend some time watching Tainter's speech on complexity and collapse
英文原摘要（HackerTube / Claude 整理）
Joseph Tainter lectures at a 2010 sustainability conference on why complex societies such as Rome collapse. His thesis is that rising complexity brings diminishing returns until societies cannot afford to maintain it.
Recommended as the best exposition of Tainter's theory, and used to explain slowing innovation, centralization and collapse risk.
HN 上的提及
he gives a great study on the nature of collapse with lots of examples
Complexity has killed off pretty much every major society prior to ours.
Lecture claims breakthroughs get costlier over time
This video [1] has a great explanation and exploration of why innovation seems to be slowing down.
Joseph Tainter I think hits the troubles with centralization right on the head.